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  1. poptart2nd

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    [a moment of silence for the fallen](https://i.imgur.com/BAQr056.png)

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  2. OldRancidSoup

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    These idiots care more about a player kneeling than they do education and health insurance. It’s mind boggling.

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  3. Juan_Tiny_Iota

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    Um, duh. We’re giving people the “freedom” to die without healthcare. You’re not against freedom, are you?

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  4. SaddleDaddy

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    I expect quite a few more NFL players will take a knee today, which is a bit ironic because Donald Trump doesn’t seem to have a leg to stand on here

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  5. BrotherhoodofWheel

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    I’m thankful I don’t have any major health issues, but as a pretty staunch conservative I still don’t see the point of not switching to Austalia or the UK’s healthcare system. Wouldn’t it be better for us to have medical debt nearly eliminated to help boost the economy?

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  6. faisal233

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

  7. rigiddigit

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    Even more confusing:

    Why do virtually all conservatives believe that taxes should absolutely go towards building a defense that absolutely blows the rest of the world’s out of the water in order to ensure our safety

    BUT

    don’t believe taxes should go towards their own and other people’s healthcare.

    I always found this strange.

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  8. [deleted]

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

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  9. RipThrotes

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    Lol caring about individuals is not what this country is about, streamlining the treatment of the masses (for better or worse) is the goal of a government.

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  10. FlyingTortoise_

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    The fact of the matter is this, fucking share. You learned how to do it in kindergarten you selfish fucks. We have the ability to provide healthcare to every single fucking citizen, yet we don’t do it because of the greed of a few. Get over it and help out your fellow Americans.

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  11. toxicpunkette

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    I tried to get Obamacare but they wanted me to pay $700 a month how the hell am I suppose to pay when I get $500 a check ? I have to pay rent,buy groceries and save for a house. I think they have a wheel with random numbers and what it lands that’s what we pay 😆

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  12. ComfyCozyConsole

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    So millions of people died before Obamacare?

    I’m still trying to figure out how people are this fucking retarded.

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  13. Killerisayhi

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    This sub is trash now

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  14. nthdayoncaprica

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    Show me something, ANYTHING that proves that patriotism is the reasoning behind healthcare law. Misunderstanding the viewpoints of people you disagree with isn’t the avenue for change.

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  15. [deleted]

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

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  16. [deleted]

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

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  17. JointCA

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    The real patriot is the one that doesn’t give a fuck about a knee, and doesn’t worry about petty squabbles mean’t to further pit each other in an endless cycle of hate. The real problem is the rich fucks stirring shit up, like million are football players, and bureaucratic big wigs, all the same pile of composte shit.

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  18. tsh2563

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    I’m a democrat but I can’t help but see the argument they have that keeling during the national anthem shows a disrespect for this nation and the processes that allow us to change our nation for the better. Its one thing to have debate on healthcare and Protest wrongful killings by cops across the country. Its quiet another to take a knee and say essentially that this country isn’t worth respect. That change isn’t worth fighting for. We might not be a perfect country thats for sure but we debate and we change with out breaking. I can see how people who view that two of the greatest things they can give is the hospitality of home and this country would be more offended by someone being disrespectful too something they hold more closely in their heart then anything else. They can suffer through the lack of healthcare, the lack of teeth, working long hours, stripping to make a living, or saving pennies to get a son or daughter into college. They have been doing that for forever. the one thing that keeps some people going is having family that are serving in the military. I understand why people would be mad. Personally I don’t care and I think they are fighting for something good. But don’t make it seem like just because someone finds this offensive they are terrible people. I strongly believe we find our way to a better life through Love and unity and not Hate, or derisiveness.

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  19. dirice87

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    “you can’t kneel at the flag, we are all on the same team!”

    “Fuck you I’m not paying for your health insurance, it’s every man for himself”

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  20. TerrorCotta2

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    False dichotomy.

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  21. seahawks201

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    Availability and affordability are not the same thing.

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  22. Clownbaby43

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    Can we stop with these memes. They’re not funny, they’re so obvious, and she’s not making a statement.

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  23. legalgrayarea

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    It’s not. We just have enough meth-damaged inbred trailer trash that are too dumb/drunk to understand better.

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  24. thispostislava

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    As a Canadian, I invite you to just move here, forget this nonsense.

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  25. JoeDirtin

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    Wow. Way to conflate two totally unrelated issues.

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  26. DangerDoc

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    Free speech is a right protected by the Constitution and firearms. Healthcare is a privilege, not a right.

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  27. tonguejack-a-shitbox

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    Trying to figure out who is claiming not having government provided healthcare is patriotic. Agree with it or not, that’s not an argument I’ve seen.

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  28. slowplay85

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    Its not my job to pay for your health insurance

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  29. big_whistler

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    Honestly, the ACA isn’t perfect and I’m sure it fucks people over but what these goons are trying to push through is worse. I don’t care if its Obamacare or whoevercare, whatever follows this has to be better, not just different.

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  30. Bnp0033

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    PREACH

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  31. eunonymouse

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    It’s because for *some* reason the only opinion that matters on what is or isn’t patriotic is rich old white racists.

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  32. offbrandsoap

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    Honestly they can just pretend they’re bending the knee if that makes them feel better.

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  33. icorrectotherpeople

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    If you go to a hospital you will be treated, it’s called the Hippocratic oath and every doctor takes it. The idea that people die from not having health insurance is a myth, and the idea that it’s a birthright is downright ridiculous. Who exactly was trampling everyone’s rights before health insurance was popularized in the 1940s?

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  34. iridisss

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    Shitty healthcare is pretty damn American, if you ask me.

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  35. GreatGigInTheSky855

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    The amount of finger-pointing between everyone is just sad. I’ll get downvoted for this but if everyone wants to point out the flaws in each others’ political views, tell me what you have done to end these problems. Are you raising money for the poor so they can afford health care? Are you trying to end racism? To me, it seems like a strong no from both sides.

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  36. blankminotaur

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    What? I’m genuinely confused here

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  37. jbrs_

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    I absolutely agree with their cause (pushing for racial equality and working against police brutality), but these are my criticisms of the particular way these players are going about protesting:

    ===

    I want to raise the question of whether the protest is actually effective. Police shootings and racial inequality are already huge topics in American media and culture, and this protest seems to be only generating discussion about players right to protest and whether this protest is anti-American, not about the problems they are protesting. In this way it is something of a distraction, at least in the short term, that could be avoided completely by choosing another avenue of protest.

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    Protesting American problems by skipping out on the national anthem signals a kind of withdrawal from American identity, and in so doing reduces America to it’s problems and protests America. The problem is that America obviously does not consist only of problems. That’s why protesting in this way is anti-American– it’s protesting American problems by protesting America, rather than the better method of ensuring the protest is against the actual problems.

    This latter point reminds me of this [op-ed](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/23/education/teaching-inclusion-in-a-divided-world.html?_r=1) with a professor in the NYT:

    > One of the most difficult intellectual and emotional challenges I faced earlier this year at Yale was finding an answer to a Native American student’s poignant question: Why should she put any faith in institutions in our society — including our judicial system and universities – when those institutions had clearly betrayed her people in generations past?

    > “The same Constitution with its protection of the rights to free expression and assembly that you revere,” she said, “was previously of no use to people like me.”

    > She was right, of course. So why should she and other young people place trust in systems that can perennially fail us?

    > I wish I had told her that the way out of this conundrum is to make these institutions her own. I wish I had told her that these institutions are worth respecting and preserving for their (albeit imperfect) embodiment of Enlightenment values; that she surely should want to embrace those values; and that her generation could make those values more true, not less.

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    Open to any counterpoints or additional discussion.

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  38. ninjacouch132

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    The one redeeming quality in our system is quality. The aca did not help the majority of people. What it did do is make some insurance companies more wealthy.

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  39. SitSpinRotate

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    Trying to figure out how bringing attention to the lack of respect and attention to racial injustice going on by disrespecting those that gave their lives for you to be able to do so isn’t perceived as a the wrong way to go about things.

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  40. I-IOLWE

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    Hate me as much as you want but I think that comments like this would be far more powerful and constructive if they said something like “a well regulated health Care system” cause making it universal would only make the HCS standards fall a lot

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  41. ---o0o---

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    I think we should be worrying less about whether things are “American” and more about whether they are moral. I’d argue that letting people die because they don’t have health insurance *is* American, but it absolutely isn’t moral. People are too hung up on the “American” thing.

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  42. Enshakushanna

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    on the one hand you earn health care through hard work and effort and the other hand is you respecting the opportunity to earn health care DOH /s

    gonna be my aunt sharons next fb post tho

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  43. Juan_Tiny_Iota

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    Well, for one, the ACA is the bastard child of the Democrats and Republicans. We got the benefit of covering more people but we were still left with a private industry that answers to shareholders. If the ACA is defeated, your father will likely be pushed off insurance completely due to cost or will have such a terrible plan that it won’t even be worth it.

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  44. [deleted]

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

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  45. ArcticXBreeze

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    How about both .. hmm how about both are cowdardly and bullshit ? Why does o e have to be worst then the other ? Why can’t they both just be fucking stupid? So sick of the division over race it’s a fucking joke.

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  46. renotime

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    I get all my political opinions from black people twitter. Ya’ll got any Thomas Sowell?

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  47. TopazDaph

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    Oh they’re making America great again alright /s

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  48. theroyalham

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    Taking a knee to a national anthem pisses me off so much but I can’t say I don’t defend them.

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  49. Shill_bot_xxx

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    It’s the American Way!™

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  50. Washwithbleach

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    As long as it’s the same people taking the knee.

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  51. PickleRichard

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    Damn nigga, drumpy plumpfy btfo

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  52. cyberstrom231

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    yall remember when bpt was funny stuff and not just clever cup of tea moments

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  53. [deleted]

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

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  54. Bioluminesce

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    I dig Trump but the healthcare shit is toxic for both parties. We need to get rid of the geriatric politicians who are fully covered and get people in place who recognize life deserves dignity and care.

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  55. BIG-BALLER-BUCKS

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    America is a corporation owned by the queen. We slaves y’all. Free roaming chickens.

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  56. is_jackson_so_ye

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    Damn right

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  57. shit_on_your_day

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    It’s simple, really.

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  58. hideousbrain

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    If the GOP isn’t going to work with you anyway, why adopt their awful plan?

    I have my answer to that question, but I would like to hear your’s

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  59. TheRealBlockaShotya

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    Why does this shit have to get political

    Just make me laugh

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  60. [deleted]

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

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  61. STRepublic

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    >Lives in United Socialist American States (USAS) >free healthcare and shit
    >Is shot by evil capitalist nazi
    >Idontgiveashitbecausefreehealthcare.jpeg
    >Three thousand years of waiting time.
    >Die because there aren’t enough doctors

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  62. jbtrilogy

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    It easy to be charitable with other people’s money.

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  63. Im_Sorry_Ms_Jackson_

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    Trying to figure out how comparing two unrelated topics to get more re-tweets is going to fix anything

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  64. DBraneff

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    That’s what Obamacare has brought us…. and is supported by Dems and some quack GOP.

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  65. DBraneff

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    The government can not force you to not but an insurance policy …if you want one. That’s what’s great about America.

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  66. Anonymous

    September 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm

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