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(Spoilers Main) My issue with the Season 7 Winterfell storyline

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One of the things that I found weirdest about the Winterfell scene in the last episode was the weird Kangaroo Court nature of Littlefinger’s trial. The show had established that the Starks needed his support, that he was a powerful enemy and that there hold was still tenuous enough that they couldn’t afford to randomly kill supposed allies. I liked the idea of Sansa knowing she couldn’t trust him but also knowing she couldn’t get away with having him killed- at the start of the season I thought that was going to be a really interesting narrative. (Also, it was obvious to me from the start that she wasn’t going to kill Arya with Bran there.)

Instead of the contrived and unconvincing this-fight-could-be-solved-if-either-of-you-spoke-for-five-minutes scenes (one of my least favourite dramatic devices and I don’t think I’m alone in this) why didn’t they create *real* tension between Sansa and Arya. After Lord Royce says his piece in episode 4 or 5, whichever it is, why not have Arya spy on Sansa as well as Littlefinger- show her buttering up the Lords of the Vale, really make it look like her and Littlefinger might be attempting a coup in the North. Then the big dramatic reveal could be that she was ensuring she had enough support to get away with killing Littlefinger.

I don’t know for sure how TV shows are written but I’m pretty sure that usually ideas are thrown around and altered before anyone even starts writing scripts which are then discussed and edited. I think a lot of the things I found annoying this season feel unedited- like less care had been put into them, or maybe they’d been so successful they were less cautious with their editing. It’s a problem I’ve been noticing for a while and have found in other successful movie/TV/book series.

I’m not saying my idea is perfect- or would even work- I’m sure people on here could find problems with it- but something I thought about on the bus makes more sense to me than the arc we got from Season 7. Which I find extremely frustrating.

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  1. chuhrros

    September 15, 2017 at 1:55 pm

    You’re right:

    1. There’s genuine drama and tension regarding: Lord Robin Arryn, LF, Royce, Sansa, and how control of The Vale can be taken from LF.

    2. Then there’s the fake and contrived drama of: Arya terrorizing her sister with undermining her and even death threats. Whether Arya was pretending or not, playing her game of faces or not, is irrelevant to conclusive scene: completely irrelevant to the crimes they ultimately executed LF for.

    So between devising some high effort writing to resolve genuine drama and tension, they go for the fake and contrived option.

    And henceforth we’re all supposed to pretend that Lord Robin Arryn doesn’t exist. He was LF’s shield and key to power over The Vale, but who cares, right?


  2. Narren_C

    September 15, 2017 at 1:55 pm

    The only way Arya makes any sense in my mind is if she was killed by the Waif in Braavos and the Waif has been impersonating her this whole time.

    She certainly acts more like the Waif than Arya. Almost like she’s just reading from ‘s list of Arya’s thoughts and desires and acting them out.


  3. teufelshunde4

    September 15, 2017 at 1:55 pm

    I get what your saying, but the simplicity of the narrative was ok imo.
    Think about it.. Bran said it himself to LF. Chaos is a ladder. LF thrived when chaos was boiling over among many different people. LF could hide in plain sight in Kings landing or the Vale. But isolated in Winterfell trying to play one sister against the other. LF’s real downfall was assuming Arya wanted to be the Lady of Winterfell. When he told Sansa that he gave himself away. Frankly LF didn’t know Arya well enuf to know what she might desire.

    I knew LF was gonna die the second Arya handed the Valarien steel dagger to Sansa. I agree they could have fleshed out the narrative a bit more. But alas they are up against the clock and the Arya,Sansa, LF story line has nothing to do with the Night King or the war with Cersi.
    B & B have enuf loose ends to tie up in last 6 episodes.
    However other then Arya killing LF the only other fate I would have love to see him have was LF getting burned or eaten by on of Danys dragons.


  4. Schnitzel8

    September 15, 2017 at 1:55 pm


    If you got a couple of good writers together, I’m sure they could’ve come up with something better.


  5. gotportugal

    September 15, 2017 at 1:55 pm

    I just don’t really reason with the show anymore. It’s my favorite show right now, yes it is, but it’s been pure fan service for awhile.


  6. gathly

    September 15, 2017 at 1:55 pm

    I completely agree with your critique. It feels like a couple of tweaks and maybe one more full episode could have solved these writing problems. It’s not like I’m asking for something that wasn’t doable, that was too expensive, or unrealistic to fit into the shoot schedule.

    I mean, the idea of a silly daytime tv, sudden dramatic music, court room reveal in the game of thrones universe is just unexpectedly bad, let alone the various character betrayals and unnaturally forced secrecy in order to create cheap non-dramatic at all drama to get there. This whole season felt like every writing session was finished with “yeah, good enough. Let’s get this shit over with”.


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