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Ok, so I was inspired by u/daxl70 ‘s recent post [“I made a chart of Messi and Cristiano’s career total club goals by season”](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/715vh7/i_made_a_chart_of_messi_and_cristianos_career/) that was submitted last week.. The Original was a great comparison of these two fantastic players, and you could clearly see how their careers have been spent competing at the highest level, both individually and with their respective teams. I decided then, to go away and put a few more charts together to maybe help visualise just how special these two players are, and to compare them to some other players goal scoring patterns and careers.

Now, I thought I was being original with some of my charts/analysis, but after going back through the post, there were actually some suggestions from other users, which matched my methods quite nicely.

>*”Do Gerd Muller next please.”* u/X4ntoZ

>*”Just a suggestion, it’d look a lot better if you did this and compared it to some of the other great goal scorers of the modern era”*. u/kaoticreapz

> *”Maybe try to make ones that all start at their respective debut seasons. You know, so you could compare how many goals they had after 5 professional seasons and so on”*… u/snoop_chinchilla

I am not sure if any of these were delivered or not, but I have gone and done these now, so lets just fucking get on with it. Apologies for the rather rudimentary charts, and for any errors in the data. It was collected and calculated manually.

It should be noted that goals calculated are ‘per season’. Some of these may be slightly inflated as European Seasons span 2 years (ie. 17/18) whereas some older and south american leagues are played over a calendar year (ie 2017). Where this occurs, and where there is an overlap (i.e a transfer between 2 seasons), I have merged the goals from a calendar year and added them to the transfered season.


##What makes a great goal scorer?

Now the first thing to note is that generally, peoples perception of what makes a great striker is different. It is important to recognise however that the selections in these charts are made primarily on the number of goals scored at club level, with some personal judgement exercised in which of the others to display. Also I am English, so there are some English names on there, plus players from English Leagues, as this is what I have grown up with and is what I know. Again, apologies if there are players in Germany/Spain/Italy or wherever that have been missed. I couldn’t have included them all anyway as it would be a total clusterfuck.

There are unsurprisingly some top names included on here. I have also thrown in a few other names to help contextualise just how good some of these players are/were. So here we go…

##All Time Total Scorers

Now I think this whole sub is in agreement that Messi and Ronaldo are the two best players in the world, both at this moment in time, and possibly for the last 8-10 years. Probably the two best players any of us have ever watched – certainly in terms of goal scoring. So lets place them in alongside some of the ‘ALL TIME Greats’. I have charted the goals scored by each of the players along the number of seasons they played. This way you can see how the goals pattern compares over their careers.

CHART: [All Time Top Scorers](https://i.imgur.com/zkZ8EvK.png)

Now you can see that actually these guys are not alone in their incredible goal scoring feats, and there are indeed some familiar names on this chart… Yes, Gerd Muller jumps out straight away. Pele is up there too (obviously), as is Eusebio. Romario and Puskas round off the players who have all scored more goals than Ronaldo and Messi. However lets look beyond total goals. I mean Romario was still playing at 40 odd and still scoring, so this skews the stats somewhat. Instead look at the amount of goals other players have scored by the same time in their career as Messi and Ronaldo. Only Gerd Mulller and Pele had a better scoring rate at this point in their careers.

Most players tail off in the middle/end of their careers, but Ibrahimovic has well and truly bucked that trend, actually scoring at a better rate now than he ever did in his 20’s.

##Football through the ages.

So we have seen how some of these names stack up against each other in the stages of their careers. But how do they look over a period of time?

CHART: [All Time Through the Ages](https://i.imgur.com/7FvRXah.png)

So I mapped these players across the time period 1950 to present day, and you can see how world football evolved with these guys. Also you can see just how rare it is that players of this quality appear through time. There are some huge names in the late 70’s, 80’s and 90’s but none managed to reach the heights of Pele, Muller, Eusebio, Di Stefano and Puskas back in the 50’s and 60’s. These guys are truly generational players, possibly for some, even ‘once in a lifetime kind of players’ (although I get the Irony that there are currently in fact 2 of them).

Also what this does reveal is that there are maybe one or two players (certainly in my head) who have maybe been ‘underrated’ a little. I mean I knew Shearer scored a lot of goals, but man he is up there and above some of the very very best.

Some names aren’t on here because there is simply not enough room to fit them, but its clear that actually 300 career goals is an outstanding amount. There are excellent players on there who did not even manage that figure (Lineker, Van Basten, Klinsmann, Roberto Baggio, Fontaine). However 400 Career goals is an exceptionally rare achievement. In fact since the ‘golden age’ there have been very few to have managed this.

Now, no doubt at this point some of you will have uttered the words *”why the fuck did he include Owen on here”* or *”Fat Ronaldo was so overrated”*. To those people I say…

##Early Years.

There was a time when even the oldest of players were young, and so for those of you who were not around to witness the majesty of ‘playing out’ or ‘SMTV Live’, you may not be able to empathise with just HOW GOOD ‘Fat Ronaldo’ was. See back in 1996 R9 was not even a thing, he hadn’t even sold his soul to nike at this point. He was just a young incredibly talented forward with an absolutely lethal eye for goal. At that point in time, he had outscored virtually everyone who had come before him, and was on track to follow in the footsteps of Pele.

CHART: [Early Years](https://i.imgur.com/EYwOv7c.png)

You will also see that since then, Neymar has exploded onto the scene. It is clear that there is much to be said for early promise. Noticeably Names Like Huntelaar will possibly surprise some people, and yes, you will see that even after 6 years, Messi and Ronaldo had both scored 40 goals in a season, and were still behind Owens total.

##Fastest to 100

NB. Some players have been excluded from this chart, and it does not capture all of the fastest to 100 players. It is just a visualisation for some of the big/modern names and how their careers panned out.

CHART [Fastest to 100](https://i.imgur.com/7lDGh0u.png)

These guys all reached 100 professional goals in club football by the end of their 6th season in the game. Some names are not on the chart because it was too cluttered. Cruyff/Huntelaar and Maradonna.. Deal with it.

For those that are, people will probably have an aneurism at Michael Owen, but yes, he really was an incredible talent in his early years (he won 2 PL Golden boots before he was 21). You can also see that his career did not work out in the same way as some of the others, but hopefully it wil help some understand the hype/promise that was around Owen back in the mid 90’s.

##The Modern Era

So how about Messi and Ronaldo in the Modern era… How do they stack up against their peers?

CHART [Modern Era](https://i.imgur.com/bMR3yCW.png)

So they quite obviously outscore all of their peers, comfortably. Some of the Biggest names in recent years are on here, and only Raul and Ibrahimovic have managed 400+ goals. Aguero has a real chance to go on and usurp all of the names on this list. He is only 29 and although he has suffered some injuries, he probably still has another 3 years at the top.. If he chooses to play on until he is 35 he could easily break the 400 barrier.

Bringing up the rear is Neymar who has scored a tonne of goals since he arrived on the world football stage. He still has his peak years ahead of him, and note that his most recent entry on that chart is this season, so he could easily stay on track with Ronaldo and Messi’s trajectory. Note on here you can clearly see Ronaldo and Messi exploded with goals in their 6th, 7th and 8th season. Neymars production fell below that trajectory last year, and maybe that evidences his reasoning for wanting to step out of Messi’s shadow..

thanks to u/TheCarbonConnection.. I have updated this to include Lewandoski and Suarez! They are both well above the curve in terms of their totals!

##Current Young Strikers

Just to prove it, this is how he compares to some of his peers (in the younger age bracket).

CHART: [Current Young Strikers](https://i.imgur.com/juYK0e7.png)

So Lukaku, Griezmann and Kane have all scored plenty as we all know. Griezamnn is actually 26, and Neymar 25, whilst Morata, Icardi and Belotti are actually not far off either. In fact, Icardi looks like he could really push on. Morata, Kane Lukaku, Icardi are all 24. Belotti is 23 as is Vincent Janssen. Timo Werner is only 21 but like some of the others, only recently found regular first team football, unlike Neymar who was playing regularly at 16. Still, Neymar remains a spectacular outlier amongst his cohort.

##Legends of the Game.

Already covered previously, but this one is just for the retired legends of the game from each of the ‘big nations’. Note I missed Italy off by accident. Its probably Del Piero with 316.

CHART: [Legends of the Game](https://i.imgur.com/qmeOeUh.png)

##National Legends

So I have also broken down some of Worlds best Strikers by Nationality, to see how they compare against some of their compatriots.

[Argentina](https://i.imgur.com/zDgfOcD.png)

[Brazil](https://i.imgur.com/7NwdNWl.png)

[England](https://i.imgur.com/drLXVvC.png)

[France](https://i.imgur.com/syYp285.png)

[Germany](https://i.imgur.com/GX9mXA5.png)

[Italy](https://i.imgur.com/BDAJCgm.png)

[Netherlands](https://i.imgur.com/85ugxpc.png)

[Portugal](https://i.imgur.com/9jM36fB.png)

[Spain](https://i.imgur.com/VrXCbDM.png)

##The Influence of the worlds best players in World Football

Since the 50’s, legends of the game have come and gone. Of the Great players who have scored most goals, this Chart details the best of the best across those years. I have taken the top scorer for each year, across all of the legends and players calculated. Note this is not the top scorer for a single year (Golden Shoe), but the top scorer of that year from the players who sustained and scored the most amount of goals throughout their entire career. Otherwise, this chart would include Kevin Phillips in 1999-2000, and that would really tell us nothing at all.

CHART: [All Time Top Scorers by Season](https://i.imgur.com/Canqnyx.png)

So once we take the best of the best, and take the top scorer for each year, something wonderful happens. You actually witness International Football’s Great Power Era’s. From the Early Supremacy of Brazil in the 50’s and 60’s, to the emergence and dominance of West Germany in the 70’s. Italy France (Euro 84) Argentina and Netherlands (Euro 88) slogging it out in the 80’s, England’s failed promise in the Early 90’s, the re-emergence of Brazilian dominance in the mid to late 90’s, the end of France’s Golden Age, Totti and Italy in 2006, followed by the Messi/Ronaldo era where Ronaldo somehow earns a very average Portuguese International side, major Honours, and Messi’s Argentina continuously fall short (excuse the terrible pun).

So yes, it appears the Best of the Best really do influence the game at the very highest level.

Anyway, hope you enjoyed this post. Thanks to u/daxl70 for sending me down the rabbit hole. Hopefully there is some stuff in here that you guys find interesting.

For me, it helped understand and appreciate, that whilst we are VERY lucky to be watching and witnessing two of the absolute greats of the game, this is actually a story that has been told a handful of times before.

I had no idea just HOW GOOD Gerd Muller was, and for how long he continued to score regularly. Pele certainly slowedup in his later years, but again I had no clue as to how much he blew away the football world in his early years. He had 450 goals before he had played 10 seasons. Simply astonishing numbers.

At the rate Messi is scoring He certainly has more goals in the tank, and would not be surprised if he was to go on and outscore Pele (644) within the next 4 years. (He needs about another 120 Goals).

Romario sits top with 679 but he played until he was 40. Still Messi (530) is only 30 and Ronaldo (532) is 32… They are not miles away. Ronaldo may need to drop to a less competitive league (*COUGH* MONACO *COUGH*) if he wants to go for the all time record.. But he probably wont hold it for too long if he ever gets it, because Messi, as always, will be hot on his heels.

Sometimes it is difficult to visulaise how good some older players were, and also to get carried away with the potential of young players. Maybe this will help place into context just how good all these players are, and also how far some of them have to go before they too can be mentioned in the same breath as some of the greats that have played the game before them.

Edit: Woah, this looks like it is gaining traction! Thanks for all the comments. Some interesting discussions coming out of this which is what I was hoping for!

Edit 2: Wow cool, gold. Thanks!

Edit 3: ~~Double~~ **TRIPLE** gold!! Niceeeeeeee

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59 Comments

  1. popoley4221998_2

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    Best OC I’ve seen on here in a long long time, OP. Kudos to you.

    Maybe considering crossposting to /r/DataIsBeautiful ?

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  2. labtecoza

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    Upvote for Bebé. Remember the name.

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  3. denlpt

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    Romário was mental

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  4. belaggio

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    I think it’s crazy that if Ronaldo and Messi weren’t around, Ibrahimovic would be seen as the greatest striker of the modern era.

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  5. TauIsRC

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    That’s some great work! Eusébio 😀

    Reply

  6. Sputniki

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    The depth and breadth of this work is wonderful and one of the reasons I love this sub – for all its flaws, we get gems like this every once in a while that is truly awesome content.

    Massive props, OP.

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  7. zrb19z

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    Amazing post OP!

    Insane that Gerd Muller scored that many goals at such a young age..

    Reply

  8. vowthy

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    Although it can be inferred, am I the only one mildly frustrated by the absence of axes labels? Still, great job OP!

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  9. uphere-

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    As someone who didn’t really watch football when he was around, it’s crazy to me how much Romario scored, and how underrated he seems to be. Even in this post, the only times he’s mentioned, his record is dismissed as “well it’s skewed because he played until he was 40” – true, but even by the time he was 33 he had scored more than anyone since Müller 20 years earlier, and until CR7 15 years later. He really stands out in the “All Time Through the Ages” chart.

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  10. non-relevant

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    would like to see that ‘young strikers’ and ‘fastest’ to 100 ones plotted against age rather than seasons of their career, and would like to see those, and a couple others, against number of career matches as well.

    still very good job op

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  11. TheCarbonConnection

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    This graph made me want to take a look at Lewandowski’s and Suarez’s tallies for goals. They are on their 11 and 12th seasons respectively, with Lewandwoski on 286 goals and Suarez with 330. Both are on pace to be 2 of the best goal scorers on the modern era, higher than everyone besides Messi and CR7 at their stages in their careers.

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  12. Lorenzo_Insigne

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    This is incredibly impressive, good work OP! Looking at the “Through the ages” graph a couple things stood out to me. Firstly, the larger number of players reaching the truly astronomical numbers (>400). 7 between roughly 1940 and 1970 and only 4 since. Secondly, just how similar Messi and Ronaldo’s careers paths have been goal wise. They’ve been neck and neck for so long, the only other pair which really come close to that are (I think) Van Basten and Lineker.

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  13. h1637727

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    you forgot to include **Josef Bican** – the most prolific scorer in football history

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  14. ModricTHFC

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    No Dixie Dean? 310 top tier league goals in 362 games.

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  15. umada_

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    I see Romario I upvote.

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  16. jimmycorn24

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    How does the Rooney fan club keep paying people to get him on lists like this?

    Reply

  17. danielestrela

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    Excellent post! Will show my father in law (R9’s former agent). Speaking of R9, I can’t fathom how the younger fellas around here disregard R9 so much.

    He was a beast in Cruzeiro, PSV, Barcelona and Inter (despite some major career ending injuries). Had one hell of a come back to bring us the Penta. He is only behind Pele in goals for the Seleção.

    Also, Zico was another major goal scorer in Brazil.

    Once again, superb post.

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  18. neijajaneija

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    Thank you

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  19. LeFormidable

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    Lacazette and no Benzema or Papin… okay..

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  20. thebigleobowski

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    I saw Romario playing in 2003, somewhat late in his career. If in his young years he was already not so keen on marking and teamworking (one of the main reasons for him to leave Valencia was related to this), you can imagine how he was later on.

    He got two workable balls in the box, netted both of them. A few touches, and that was it. Pure fucking magic.

    And let’s not forget when he punched Simeone in the face, got ejected and a few hours later was flying to Rio on a rented jet to play futvôlei in Copacabana. When asked about it, he justified the punch by just saying “yeah, he’s Argentinian, kicked me, I punched back. That’s all.”

    Legend

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  21. 42err

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    Great work OP. It was very interesting and like you said, I didn’t know good a few from the past were in comparison with the current generation of footballers. Would you mind sharing where did you collect the data from?

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  22. LKMarleigh

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    > So yes, it appears the Best of the Best really do influence the game at the very highest level.

    Whilst looking at nations works for eras prior to Messi/Ronaldo maybe we should now look on the Champions League as the best of the best rather than international tournaments. In this sense yes the best of the best influence the game at the highest level

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  23. doomsday_pancakes

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    * National legends

    * Di Stefano

    * **SPAIN**

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  24. oodledoodley

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    No Steve Bloomer? You can’t argue Crouch is a legend and not have Bloomer.

    /Itsallopinionsinit

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  25. Armonster20

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    /r/dataisbeautiful

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  26. phigo50

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    This is great but please label your axes!

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  27. black_fire

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    I’m 24, but if I score 70 goals a season for the next 4 years I can retire a legend.

    Look out for me lads

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  28. InfoNazi

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    Nice work mate! That modern era chart shows just how far ahead Messi and Ronaldo are from the rest. Its not even close.

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  29. Dean-16

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    I love posts like these. Great work OP!

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  30. SameCrayfish

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    Really interesting man, do you have plans to do more? It would have been good to see some older comparisons like Dixie Dean and Fernando Peyroteo (spelling) and how they stack up against their modern peers.

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  31. FroobingtonSanchez

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    Absolutely amazing OC

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  32. cheezus171

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    If anyone is interested to see the statistics including players from before 1950, i recommend going to http://www.rsssf.com/players/prolific.html

    There’s so much data there it’s gonna make your head hurt.

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  33. Jurjeneros

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    Klaas Jan Huntelaar though, shit

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  34. Chillidawg

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    Suarez had the most goals in 15/16, not Ronaldo

    Edit: Also have to include that you made a great job with this post, really enjoyed it

    Reply

  35. aphromagic

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    Just want to chime in with everyone else and say that this is excellent, like extremely excellent, and probably the best post I’ve ever seen on this sub. Great shit, OP!

    Reply

  36. Andrex316

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    This is a great post OP thanks for taking the time!

    It would have been great to have axis labels though to make them a bit easier to read.

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  37. Eladir

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    This is absolutely brilliant.

    There should be a dedicated site with these graphs being interactive, it would be relatively easy if you put in all the relevant data.

    I noticed a glaring mistake though regarding Morata since like half the goals you are counting were scored in lower divisions, 12 in second division and 33 in third division. Spanish third division is a shitshow as it is 80 teams spread in groups and in the end of the season they have complicated playoffs etc. Anyway, dunno if it was just for Morata or you counted lower division goals for everyone but imo they shouldn’t count.

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  38. evellaph

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    Damn the quality is shite on mobile

    Reply

  39. flancresty

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    Fantastic work. Really helps put players in tiers. Helps distinguish between the Zlatan/Henry/Raul/Shearer/R9 tier and the Rooney/Owen, and really helps put some scale behind how much better Messi and Ronaldo are than their peers.

    Also a good way to visualize how much longer careers are now than even a couple decades ago.

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  40. RamandAu

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    Was ’87 the year Van Basten got injured? Going from scoring 40+ to Romario being top scorer with only 24, something must’ve happened. Same thing with ’92 and Baggio only scoring 22. With that year bracketed by players scoring in the mid 30s, why such a low scoring count?

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  41. AlfredoDiStefano

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    Amazing, this must’ve taken you a long time! It will be exciting to see where Ronaldo and Messi are when they both have retired.

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  42. AnnieIWillKnow

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    Amazing work OP. So well thought-out and presented, and really liked the analysis of each chart as you went. A good overview of the history of great goalscorers, too.

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  43. JosephHayes13

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    Great work, man. Do you have raw data for these graphs available?

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  44. simon99ctg

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    Just a question: why do your Messi and CR7 data points appear to differ from those in daxl70’s original graph?

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  45. JustAnothrBoringName

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    This is an incredible post, thanks so much for taking the time to formulate this and offer it up to us to see!

    Reply

  46. ilm0409

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    Can someone give me a dy/dx of this?

    Reply

  47. Canta15

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    wow cheers

    Reply

  48. LordSpeechLeSs

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    Absolutely fantastic work, op! But where is Bican?

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  49. thorinfinitynbeyond

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    Solid work OP!!! Just a suggestion, maybe you can put the name of the chart on the chart itself because I opened all the charts on on multiple tabs and confused which chart is which.

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  50. bolah

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    I was personally offended by Benzema being ignored so here he is https://i.imgur.com/aEictYQ.png

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  51. king_of_blig

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    You really do get a sense of how Owen and Rooney’s careers fizzled out as they got to 30.

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  52. ruh_roh_shaggy

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    >At the rate Messi is scoring He certainly has more goals in the tank, and would not be surprised if he was to go on and outscore Pele (644) within the next 4 years. (He needs about another 120 Goals).

    Well, I think it all depends on where he goes positionally and how many other reliable scorers Barcelona or Argentina has. For both teams, particularly Barcelona, when someone else can be relied on as a finisher (e.g. Suarez or Neymar), Messi is used in a more creative role. He’s back to be a semi-false 9/all over the front third player these days with Suarez not scoring much, Paco and Deulofeu yet to impress, and Dembele injured. But when Suarez was really hot, he was the big scorer of Barcelona and Messi was playing further back.

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  53. Diss1dent

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    Kudos for taking the time and spending it on these. I found this extremely interesting and read everything!

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  54. Toasterfire

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    That final chart is an amazing finisher. Great work!

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  55. Poopiepants666

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    Great post and thanks for all the hard work! Do you have the numbers for appearances saved in your spreadsheets? If so, I have always been interested in goal scoring ratios amongst the all-time greats. It would be very interesting to see some of those numbers. Some players had smaller grand totals due to shorter careers but a very high scoring ratio, whereas some players with very long careers had a very average or above-average scoring ratios that resulted in a very large grand total. I think the ratio statistics could show the potential of what might have been for those players whose careers were cut short.

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  56. KingYoshiLuca

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    That are some amazing charts.

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  57. mr-dogshit

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    yes, yes, yes, yes, YES, YES, YEEEEEEEEEEES… That, was ~~a goal~~ some original content

    Reply

  58. yourigo

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    Well, that must have taken a long time. I have to be honest, I don’t really like this sort of thing. Comparing scoring rates from different eras and leagues is meaningless. Everything from infrastructures to fitness has drastically improved over the years, so you might as well be comparing La Liga and the Belgian 3rd division. Just as pointless.

    What this was a good opportunity for, though, was to maybe introduce people to some players they didn’t know were very good in their time. By arbitrarily excluding players from the list because their name wasn’t famous enough you completely missed that opportunity.

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  59. Anonymous

    September 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm

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